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Common Repair Problems - International Reels
965 Early Run Reels - Plates, Housing, Screws, Idler Gear, Worm Shaft and Spool Gear ratchet change
Early Run 965 Reels
The first run(s) of these reels contained a different gear setup:
Housing, Plates and related external parts changed: Part Early Run Current Reels Plate, Handle Side 1-965 1N-965 Take-Apart Screw (2 Required) 38-965 **NLA*** 38N-965 Side Plate Washer (2 Required) 38B-965 38BN-965 O'Ring for screw (2 Required) 38C-965 38CN-965 Housing 183-965 183N-965 Gears that changed internally: Part Early Run Current Reels Idler Gear 64-965 **NLA** 64M-965 Worm Shaft 42-965 **NLA** 42M-965 Spool Gear Click Ratchet 66-965 **NLA** 66M-965 TEXT AS
EngravedInternational
965International 965 TO SEE WHICH TYPE OF GEARS THAT YOU HAVE:
A higher percentage of the reels will have the current design, but LOOK AT ALL PARTS SHOWN BELOW IN PHOTOS!
Plates and housing on the newer reels are a darker gold color, as shown in the photo below, but color isn't as important as the engraving on the housing.
The "International 965" is engraved as two lines on the early reels, regardless of reel color, then changed to the text being on one line on the more current ones.
THERE MAY BE IN BETWEEN MODELS WHERE THE PLATES/PARTS WERE CHANGED BUT THE ENGRAVING WAS NOT!
The housings are NOT the same, because Penn changed the screw hole diameters, but there was an in-between run that we became aware of with newer plates/screws but the older engraving, which makes using the housing as a reference not perfect. *** LOOK AT THE OTHER PARTS TO I.D. your version! ***LOOK AT BOTH OF THESE PARTS, the HANDLE SIDE PLATE and THE IDLER GEAR
Look at BOTH to determine what is in your reel as it could have older gearing, but newer plates/screws w/older engraving or newer engraving, etc, depending on when reel was released, or if someone partially upgraded it and changed the parts out!The idler gear is the most distinctive - the 64-965 was a plastic gear with an attached small brass gear, O.D. measures 1.078 inches overall. The current 64M-965 is entirely made of plastic, and O.D. measures 1.1 inches.
If you have the original plastic/brass idler gear, and need to replace ANY of the three pieces, you will need to order all three parts.
Sample of newer all plastic idler gear.
Notes For Ordering The Parts Above
To Order: Click on the linked part number(s) in the parts list to go to the screen to order that specific part. Do this for each part that you need to order/replace Upgrade: To completely upgrade to the newer system, order all the parts in the "Current Reels" column.
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